Interesting Tandems on ebay….

Griffen Tandem: This is actually a pretty interesting tandem that I’d definitely want to have if I was a collector.  However, the one thing potential buyers need to take note of is the incredibly short stoker compartment; I think it’s about 25″ vs. your standard Santana at 27.75″ or a Co-Motion at 28.5″.   It would be a non-starter for us, as our Calfee uses a 30″ stoker compartment.  All that said, the Griffen with its Metal Matrix Composite frame is definitely a great conversation piece.  Pricing is probably at the high-end given it’s age, but the condition and build are still pretty much top shelf. Regardless, someone will snatch this up, either a current Griffen owner or just someone with a few bucks in their pocket that likes unusual tandems and bikes.  There just weren’t too many of these made.  I preferred the white/silver/black paint scheme.

GriffinTandem_Ebay

Vintage Colnago Tandem: Here’s proof in the power of brand name loyalty.  As nice as Colnago’s are, their tandems by today’s standards were nothing special.  But, as the seller notes, there weren’t that many of them so the few that do exist are often times coveted by the Colnago aficionados and collectors… somewhat along the same lines as the very rare Serotta tandems. Again, the Serotta tandems were nothing special by today’s standards given the constraints they had with tubing selection, but nicely executed and, well, stable mates of the coveted single bikes bearing the same brand name.  $10,000… who knows. Colnago owners sometimes drive Ferrari’s… yes, there’s a connection.

ColnogoTandemJack Taylor Racing Tandem: This one’s pretty neat and would truly be a great addition for a collector if only because of the frame design, Campy racing group and of course the Jack Taylor pedigree.  However, I’m pretty sure this one’s been out on ebay for a very long time, perhaps even longer than the next tandem that I’ll be highlighting.  Once again, beauty and value is in the eye of the beholder and as interesting and collectible as this tandem may be, I’m not sure the Buy it Now price is all that attractive.

JackTaylorTandemSantana Track Tandem: This poor thing has been on ebay for what seems like an eternity. Another offering from Cycle Smithy in Chicago (same as the Jack Taylor) that has a pretty hefty price tag for a track tandem made by a builder who really doesn’t specialize in building track-specific frames. I’m sure it will ride well enough, but given that track tandem racing is pretty much limited to paralympic events or exhibition races such as the Tandemonium series at Trexlertown, PA, there’s a very narrow market for this type of tandem.  And, just because it’s rare doesn’t really mean it’s necessarily great or valuable.

SantanaTrackTandemSantana Sovereign: Again, I think this one’s been on ebay for quite some time and for good reason: despite what you may have read in Santana’s marketing literature, their tandems depreciate just as fast as any other tandem or bicycle.  This is actually an original Sovereign, which is to say it’s an all-steel, fillet-brazed frame from what I’ll guess is the early 90’s.  At the time, Santana had two high-end steel tandem offerings that used the same lovely fillet-brazed frames, but were differentiated by their component groups. The Sovereign was the touring model with a triple ring drive whereas the Team was the racing model with a DuraAce component group and double ring drive. Again, lovely-looking tandems but by today’s standards they’re incredibly heavy and not all that stiff. Tubesets have come a long way.  Clearly a nice tandem for avery tall rider, but that’s a pretty narrow market.

SantanaSovereign

Meridian Triplet: This may actually be a pretty good deal; I’d offer a little less since the seller left the door open for that.  Meridian was a ‘wanna-be’ Santana Cycles firm started up by a former Santana manager, Jim Leis.  The Meridian’s were not all that different from a Santana in terms of the design philosophy, geometry, etc. and were pretty good bikes.  However, the business foundered. But, the tandems that were produced are still out there and remain good values in the used market since they are essentially orphans.  Of course, so are Burley’s at this point. So, if someone in Northern Illinois was looking to dip their toes into the triplet world, this wouldn’t be a bad way to do it.

Meridian Triplet

Victor Courting Tandem: An interesting restoration project, but just because it’s old doesn’t mean it’s valuable.  Seriously, there were hundreds of company’s building bicycles and tandems at the turn of century and some were better than others, but the technology was pretty rudimentary.  This would be a good project for a few hundred bucks, but unless Ignaz Schwinn or Henry Ford were in this particular bike’s history, that’s a pretty steep asking price.

Victor Tandem

Ibis Uncle Fester:  Pretty sure this is a Fester and not the follow-on Cousin It. I remember when someone scored a sister bike to this ’93ish Ibis Uncle Fester in Ibis racing colors back a few years for $850; that was a great deal.  Ibis’ tandems have an amazing following and even the models like the Fester that don’t have the Ibis trademark “Hand Job” cable guide or “Toe Jam” frame pump peg often pull in big money. A nice find but, once again… there’s a reason this one’s been for sale for so long.  $1,500 would even be a bit much IMHO. But, I’d love to have one for banging around.  I just wouldn’t want to pay more than I would to get one of the last USA-Made Cannondale Street Tandems for knocking around.

Ibis Uncle Fester’39 Sun Wasp: This may be the best of the bunch.  If anyone ever wanted to have a really interesting tandem from a bygone era of cycling, the Wasps are good examples.  These were analogous to being the Rolls-Royce of bicycles in their day; heavy… really heavy and fully equipped.  Finding one that won’t require hours of searching for parts, decals and other bits to restore is truly a blessing in disguise unless you like that sort of project.  Price isn’t awful if it’s as complete, mechanically accurate and functional as this one.  Yes, it’s definitely got a lot of rust and the paint is showing it’s age, but there’s something to be said for retaining the patina on a survivor like this.

Wasp Tandem

Cannondale MT800:  $2,000… REALLY?!   This tandem had an MSRP of $2,203.99 when it was new back in 2002.  Don’t get me wrong, great tandems… when they were made here in the US.  But that price expectation for a 13-year old tandem is pretty sporty IMHO.  However, that said, there aren’t that many low-cost entry-level tandems that would be as good as this for a starter tandem, so if the seller would take a reasonable offer it might be a good find.

MT800

OK, those are the ones that grabbed my attention. There are several other premium-priced Santana’s, a few Burley’s and other interesting tandems up for auction. But, these seemed to warrant some attention and discussion.  In general, the pricing on a lot of what I’m seeing feels Silicon Valley’ish, not Main Street USA.  Then again, the average price of a tandem has continued to climb since the demise of Burley who for the longest time provided a great entry-level price point… as did Cannondale towards the end of it’s life. Yeah, sorry… Cannondale is dead to me.  It’s just another brand name owned by a huge corporation that markets all kinds of stuff made overseas and brought to our shores in container ships.

For folks who are looking for some more mainstream tandems that aren’t all that old and lightly used, the Tandem Club of America’s classified site has a pretty good selection. And, since they’re not ebay auctions, you can actually contact the sellers by phone in most cases and do a deal the old fashion way.  http://tandemclub.org/classifieds/browse-ads/

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I've been around a bit and done a few things, have a couple kids and a few grandkids. I tend to be curmudgeonly, matter-of-fact and not predisposed to self-serving chit-chat. Thankfully, my wife's as nice as can be otherwise we'd have no friends. My interests are somewhat eclectic, but whose aren't?
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7 Responses to Interesting Tandems on ebay….

  1. Kevin Vinson says:

    Mark, I remember talking to you about the Griffen Tandem several years ago and you provided me a PowerPoint slide comparing the geometry between the Griffen Tandem and my 2002 Trek T2000 tandem. Big difference! Like you I would love to have it as a collector. As for the Ibis Uncle Fester, a couple in DATES have the Ibis Cousin It. I love the reference to the Addams Family. You take care and stay warm there in the Atlanta area. Before I forget, I read your most recent blog but forgot to respond. Due to health reasons I am selling my Dad’s 1977 BMW R100S. So far I have posted it out on the Two Wheeled Texans site.

    http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101125&highlight=1977+BMW+R100S

    Give my regards to Debbie!

    • TG says:

      Yes, I clearly recall your note about the Griffen; cool tandems but… just that one real shortcoming. Our first tandem was ALMOST an Ibis Easy Street; it was captivated by the beautiful blue frame hanging on Jack Goertz’ wall at Tandems East, but it was a Medium-size frame which made it a non-starter for us. The Ibis frames — which may or may not technically be as exceptional as we’d like to think they are — remain highly sought after for their funkiness… or rather, the funkiness of Scot Nicol’s mind, often times cool paint scheme and of course the names like Uncle Fester and Cousin IT which gave them their cult following status. Who doesn’t love the “MORON” tubing! (Ibis speak for double-butted, aka “more on both ends”). As long as folks know they’re paying for that cult status, a premium price for an Ibis tandem isn’t an awful thing so long as they don’t have visions of making money when they go to sell it. That only happens when someone score an Ibis from someone who just thought it was an old tandem and sold it for an old tandem price in the hundreds. Sorry to hear your dad had reached a point where he can no longer enjoy that beautiful BMW R100S. I’m confident you’ll get a full-price offer with just a little patience. BMW owners/buyers are notoriously frugal and will attempt to dicker-down, but the value is definitely there.. and then some. That bike’s motor’s not even broken-in yet. Unlike the newer BMWs that have been sold on the reputation of the pre-90’s models, that R100S will go for 100’s of thousands of miles. About the only thing that would make it more valuable would be the original sport fairing, if it were still available.

      Be well and our best to Linda!

      • Kevin Vinson says:

        You are so right about the Ibis tandems. The couple in DATES that have the Cousin IT, the paint scheme on that is very wild. I know for sure I can count on one hand the number of times I have seen an Ibis tandem. Thank you for the kind thoughts regarding my Dad. As for my Dad’s BMW, if I had a 3-car garage I might consider keeping it. I’ve been riding it when the weather allows. I’m trying to keep it spotless. You aren’t the only one to point out the fact it doesn’t have the original sport fairing. The guys at the Plano BMW shop said the same thing. It’s great hearing from you. You and Debbie take care and have a great week. Linda says hi!

  2. jeff knight says:

    I purchased the Meridian triple listed above. Seller was not original owner. I’d like to discuss specific components via email with blog owner or whomever. Have got some questions about setup before I go making changes…

    If this is cool… post here and we’ll figure out how to swap email addresses.

  3. jeff knight says:

    FYI, There’s a triple in TX on there now for $2500.

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